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Gallitrot
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“Anglish”
- February 18, 2012, 5:48am
Hey Jayles, wade in by all means...
Ed- is the correct Old English form of re- which is from French... and because they're both two letters long then you're not losing brevity in the process of shifting one to the other. And anyway, every new word or reintroduction if you will has a certain amount of 'gibberish' factor till it catches on, for instance in the last 10-20 yrs 'earworm', 'bling', 'google' all unintelligible to people before widely trending and becoming part of everyday speech. So 'edquicken' can happily run alongside 'enliven' 'reinvigorate' 'resurrect' etc till it either does or doesnt catch on. For me that's the beauty and eathness of this new fangled t'interweb witchcraft ;)
“Anglish”
- February 17, 2012, 2:04pm
I know where you're coming from with the made up words accusations scenario. However, I do think a fair amount of the old spelling in Old English would have to be updated for the word to be accessible in its edquickening phase. Sure, sigor isn't such a problem and would be easy to get the mouth round. But I know for a fact since a friend asked me how to pronounce ''thegn'' that he sounded like a right numpty trying ''theggin, theegna'' etc... Anglish may be open to accusations of being a 'made up' tongue, however it leaves itself wide open as all kinds of folk use hybrid German, Dutch, Swedish words...plus the director of the site doesn't even see Anglish as a gateway to the resurrection of original native words. I seem to recall it being written somewhere that the site was purely a social experiment. Lame! is what I say, frigging lame!
“Anglish”
- February 16, 2012, 1:55pm
Actually, you might have struck upon something there. SIGOR has lovely little mnemonics about its spelling which remind people of the word 'victORy', and 'victOR' plus in the form sigor then no one in Britain would think of the oft used abbreviation 'cig' for a cigarette, which naturally is a baneful homophone next to 'sig'
“Anglish”
- February 16, 2012, 1:48pm
... better to use 'hue'.
“Anglish”
- February 16, 2012, 1:46pm
Using the word 'color' or 'colour' is a nod to the French, full stop - as they're both variants from the same language just with different spelling chronology. And let's be honest, I'm hardly going to use the Webster's spelling dictates am I?! XD
“Anglish”
- February 16, 2012, 10:15am
I see no good grounds why sye and sig couldn't be used interchangeably or with slight variances in meaning. The main problem we face with all reintroductions is making the words trendy enough to catch on, and finding a universal spelling that can be agreed upon and adhered to. As daft as it may be, but Americans and British are never going to unify their spelling in words we already have because the differences emblazon nationalistic traits that each nation's folkhood are loath to yield to - so forever we're to be tortured with color and colour... that's where German really has done itself a lot of favours by standardising sounds to set combinations of letters, aside from them pishing about with the Rechtschreibung every few years, that is, but otherwise a great boon.
Actually, guys, if you were to suggest an updated spelling for 'sigor' what would it be?
“Anglish”
- February 16, 2012, 3:41am
Yeah, cheers Aengelfolc, I'm well aware of the yogh, just can't be arsed seeking out the symbol everytime I want to write 'sige' ;) But my frain wasn't concerning sige, it is the significance of the word 'sig' which was given. Like I said, I'd be happier using 'sye' from 'sige', rather than Cowley's 'seyer' from 'sigor', now that I know of its existence.
Regarding the forsaking of 'sige' , you know how it goes, a whole clump of jumped up pompous idiots 'tween the 14th and 17th Centuries all extolling the virtues of 'victory' from some antiquated Latin word, not to mention its neat -y suffix making it eath to rhyme it in ditties and in flattering court song when supposedly professing the 'great victories' of some arrogant Norman tw*t of a king.
“Anglish”
- February 15, 2012, 5:54am
Just been checking up on Mr S Wodening, I know he is quoted in Wiktionary for the word 'sig' but what are his sources? As the ME spelling would almost undeniably have been pronounced along the lines of 'seeya', I find it very difficult to feel at one with his heathen writings (not from any religious bent I may add) because he wheels about betwixt modern English and Anglo- Saxon words, then it seems he updates a few words by his own wont.
Maybe I'm being overly harsh, but I see no evidence for his peculiar pronunciation or spelling of 'sig' , and believe me if I was am convinced then I'd most definitely take the extant word on board, and drop the idea of 'sye' or 'seyer'.
“Anglish”
- February 15, 2012, 5:39am
Sorry, let me qualify my last statement... can't find any verification of 'sig' in any other word list compilation outside of Wiktionary.
“Anglish”
@Anwulf, I appreciate your example of 'qapla' being used as a just argument for not using made up words, but falls down on one key point. Klingon is an entirely fabricated language! Whereas 'Anewed English' , if you will, is based wholly on real words used by real folk. It serves only to update and surmise the pronunciation outcome of a wordhoard that has been neglected, ousted and fallen out of use for nearly 1000yrs. It also only attempts transduce the old shrift form into a widely intelligible Latin based one that native speakers can access. The learning of Klingon will always remain a whimsical social exercise with no other purpose for learning it than that of fan-dom. It cannot (unlike Old English based words) reconstruct, benefit, befit or behoove English cultural ideas of language identity or the sad fact wrongs done our tongue by 300years of tyrannical usurpation.