Oh and AF, it is a conspiracy, for it it weren't then half of the crap would have dwined out of the language by now. Furthermore, once scholars in the 19th hundredyear realised that they had falsely been trying to make English conform to Latin, then if theyd really wanted they couldve started to undo some of the nonsense... but they didnt. Twats.

***There are thousands of words that are put in books as coming from French, Old French, and/or Latin that are really Germanic. Loft academicians are mainly to blame. They thought Ænglisc too low-brow, boorish, and unworldly -- which is not true!***

Sometimes Aengelfolc, I think you're reading pages from my brain. Afreshing to hear someone with the same feelings and mootings as myself. That's twice in a row now, AF, third time's a hattrick.

Ofost - looks very much like the word 'avast' to me, which has an uncertain etymology.

Ah well, whether the 'chivesborn' page is there or not, and whichever ill-willed little sh#t-for-brains deciding to erase it notwithstanding, it's now been recorded somewhere in the ether, as the title is still there, then that will make it eath for the next contributer/ ingiver.

Oh re. 'grudge' I yeasay that it sounds far too Germanic/ Thedish/ Almain... and funnily enough there is an OE verb ' gruncian' which means 'to desire', now i'm sure you're as aware as I am that many words over time have flipped meaning, and seeing as desire and holding a grudge are lingering states of emotion then I'm hedging a bet on this not being a million miles off the mark.

I think you have to say English as an intelligibly separate and sunderly tongue from Lower Saxon/ Anglian is when it is likely fair to say the clock can start. And that would be once it started to fuse with elements of Brythonic speech - So I dont see any problem with that being wholly accepted as around the 5th Century.

One in the eye, I reckon... forgive the pun

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/chivesborn

Hey just stumbled across this...don't know who it's by, but it's definitely running with the whole Anewed English/ Anglish theme.

http://www.wordnik.com/words/yeasay

@AEngelfolc, yeasaid! I hate what should be said plainly being put into crap twomeaningness, particularly when it concerns law or criminal acts, or simply the authorities admitting they've made a boo-boo.

Hey HM,

That night not quite be true, the Old English word for shark seems to survive in North Sea fisherman's parlance as 'hoe' which is the term for a dogfish. Now, very possibly affected by Norse, but considering German has Hai, and Dutch Haai, then I'd have thought the chance of it living on into modern English is fairly likely. There also are fish names like 'Hake', and 'Hagfish' that may still retain some etymology. Although they often give the connection to the word 'hook' then it is pure postulation on their part.

Not bad, Aengelfolc.

The word stock is actually fair broadly nooted. In its rightnowly shape then I don't see why it couldn't be applied to mean 'piece'.